Interpretation of instructions

Part 1 - Instructions on how to interpret as well as rough location.
Assumption: Andromeda

“To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies!

Andromeda, again, which is Classical Greek Astronomy.

Part 2 - What kind of mythology & pieces to follow, perhaps which system to look in :

To the whisperer in witchspace, the siren of the deepest void!

Meaning Sirens(?) via the “Myth of Er”, but is the link strong enough?
I’m not so sure about this.

Part 3 - Where in the system to go :

The parent’s grief, the lover’s woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts. To Raxxla!”

Conjectures and possible references

Part 1: Andromeda, Big Dipper, Ursa Major, Ursa Minor
Part 2: Sirens as depicted in the Myth of Er
Part 3:

Finally we need to figure out which model to use to predict where in the system the planet is.
If it is a planet that is…


Greek astronomy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_astronomy
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Archaic Greek astronomy

No reference: Hesiod
Homer, Ports and outposts
Gilgamesh system

Homer has several astronomical phenomena including solar eclipses. In the Iliad and the Odyssey, Homer refers to the following celestial objects:
- the constellation Boötes
- the star cluster Hyades
- the constellation Orion
- the star cluster Pleiades
- Sirius, the Dog Star
- the constellation Ursa Major

No reference: Anaximander, Philolaus, Antichthon

Pythagorean described a cosmos with the stars, planets, Sun, Moon, Earth, and a counter-Earth (Antichthon)—ten bodies in all—circling an unseen central fire

Pythagoras, Ports and outposts

a more detailed description about the cosmos, Stars, Sun, Moon and the Earth can be found in the Orphism
Note:
Orphics revered Dionysus or Bacchus (who once descended into the Underworld and returned) and Persephone (who annually descended into the Underworld for a season and then returned).
Note: Very little in common otherwise.

The Planets in Early Greek Astronomy

The name “planet” comes from the Greek term πλανήτης (planētēs), meaning “wanderer”, as ancient astronomers noted how certain lights moved across the sky in relation to the other stars. Five extraterrestrial planets can be seen with the naked eye: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, the Greek names being Hermes, Aphrodite, Ares, Zeus and Cronus. Sometimes the luminaries, the Sun and Moon, are added to the list of naked eye planets to make a total of seven.


Eudoxan astronomy

In classical Greece, astronomy was a branch of mathematics; astronomers sought to create geometrical models that could imitate the appearances of celestial motions. This tradition began with the Pythagoreans, who placed astronomy among the four mathematical arts (along with arithmetic, geometry, and music). The study of number comprising the four arts was later called the Quadrivium.

Pythagoras, Ports and outposts

Plato (427–347 BC) included the quadrivium as the basis for philosophical education in the Republic. He encouraged a younger mathematician, Eudoxus of Cnidus (c. 410 BC–c. 347 BC), to develop a system of Greek astronomy

No reference: Plato
Eudoxus, Ports and outposts Note: Kuk

Plato’s main books on cosmology are the Timaeus and the Republic. In them he described the two-sphere model and said there were eight circles or spheres carrying the seven planets and the fixed stars.
According to the “Myth of Er” in the Republic, the cosmos is the Spindle of Necessity, attended by Sirens and spun by the three daughters of the Goddess Necessity known collectively as the Moirai or Fates.

Moirai system
Fates system
Note: Myth of Er could be more plausible if Plato had more references.

According to a story reported by Simplicius of Cilicia (6th century), Plato posed a question for the Greek mathematicians of his day: “By the assumption of what uniform and orderly motions can the apparent motions of the planets be accounted for?” (quoted in Lloyd 1970, p. 84). Plato proposed that the seemingly chaotic wandering motions of the planets could be explained by combinations of uniform circular motions centered on a spherical Earth, apparently a novel idea in the 4th century.

Eudoxus rose to the challenge by assigning to each planet a set of concentric spheres. By tilting the axes of the spheres, and by assigning each a different period of revolution, he was able to approximate the celestial “appearances.” Thus, he was the first to attempt a mathematical description of the motions of the planets.
A general idea of the content of On Speeds, his book on the planets, can be gleaned from Aristotle’s Metaphysics

Eudoxus, Ports and outposts Note: Kuk
Aristotle, Ports and outposts

No reference: Aratus, Theodosius of Bithynia’s, Callippus


Hellenistic astronomy

Planetary models and observational astronomy

No reference: Antiquity by Autolycus of Pitane, Apollonius
Perga, Ports and outposts Note: Kuk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonius_of_Perga

In the 2nd century BC, Hipparchus, aware of the extraordinary accuracy with which Babylonian astronomers could predict the planets’ motions …
Hipparchus also compiled a star catalogue. According to Pliny the Elder, he observed a nova (new star).

Hipparchus system. Note: same region as Aristarchus system.
Pliny system
Elder ports

Heliocentrism and cosmic scales

In the 3rd century BC, Aristarchus of Samos proposed an alternate cosmology (arrangement of the universe): a heliocentric model of the Solar System, placing the Sun, not the Earth, at the center of the known universe
Aristarchus also wrote a book On the Sizes and Distances of the Sun and Moon
Hipparchus wrote another book On the Sizes and Distances of the Sun and Moon

Aristarchus system. Note: same region as Hipparchus and Ptolemy system
Samos ports
Hipparchus system. Note: same region as Aristarchus and Ptolemy system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Sizes_and_Distances_(Aristarchus)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Sizes_and_Distances


Astronomy in the Greco-Roman and Late Antique eras

Hipparchus is considered to have been among the most important Greek astronomers, because he introduced the concept of exact prediction into astronomy. He was also the last innovative astronomer before Claudius Ptolemy, a mathematician who worked at Alexandria in Roman Egypt in the 2nd century. Ptolemy’s works on astronomy and astrology include the Almagest, the Planetary Hypotheses, and the Tetrabiblos, as well as the Handy Tables, the Canobic Inscription, and other minor works.

Ptolemy system. Note: same region as Aristarchus and Hipparchus system.

Ptolemaic astronomy

The Almagest is one of the most influential books in the history of Western astronomy. In this book, Ptolemy explained how to predict the behavior of the planets

Almagest system
Sirius-Almagest connection.

Ptolemy explained how to predict the behavior of the planets, as Hipparchus could not, with the introduction of a new mathematical tool, the equant.

Ptolemy placed the planets in the order that would remain standard until it was displaced by the heliocentric system and the Tychonic system:
1. Moon
2. Mercury
3. Venus
4. Sun
5. Mars
6. Jupiter
7. Saturn
8. Fixed stars

Ref for the rest (too tired): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_astronomy#Ptolemaic_astronomy


Sizable references

These systems can be visited in Elite.

Name Sol LY Kind Notes
Arcas 36.71 planet  
Pliny 38.73 system  
Moirai 57.94 system  
Gilgamesh 68.33 system  
Fates 85.27 system  
Almagest 386.24 system You need to follow the Sirius-expansion. See below.
Ptolemy 1,324.68 system same region as Aristarchus and Hipparchus system.
Aristarchus 1,344.63 system same region as Hipparchus and Ptolemy system
Hipparchus 1,347.19 system same region as Aristarchus system.

Contextual references

Vagabond, Wanderer

In Classical Greece, the “wandering stars” and the gods who directed them were separate entities, as for Plato; in Hellenistic culture, the association became an inseparable identification, so that Apollo, no longer the regent of the Sun, actually was Helios (Seznec 1981, pp 37–40).

Almagest: Ref Sirius + Andromeda

  1. Sirius is present here with a station, Sirius Reach.
  2. Almagest was ‘missing’ due to a bug at one stage and showed up as WREDGUIA XD-K D8-78.

    One of the systems which were selected for editing following the Sirius Corp colonization CG.

Further reminder:

Sirius the dog star … Hecates favorite animal. Also its been so long I had forgotten about The Grand Sirius Interstellar Expedition back in 3301…. which had us turning in exploration data and ended up in the wonders of Robigo Sothis and Ceos. Both Robigo and Sothis are gods similar to Hecate and related to Sirius. Ceos was a greek Island where they worshiped the star Sirius

Further system-listing and notes: Sirius colonization entry

Other weak references

Leaving these references here for later. This is how I started looking into the Hellenistic culture and traditional Greek Astronomy.
Ursa Major and Greco-Roman tradition links to Callisto

… Jupiter turns Arcas into a bear too and puts them both in the sky, forming Ursa Major and Ursa Minor. Callisto is Ursa Major and her son, Arcas, is Ursa Minor. An alternate version has Arcas become the constellation Boötes.

Arcas planet

Big Dipper references Callisto

Classical Greek mythography identified the “Bear” as the nymph Callisto

Callisto

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callisto_(mythology)

The myth in Catasterismi may be derived from the fact that a set of constellations appear close together in the sky, in and near the Zodiac sign of Libra, namely Ursa Minor, Ursa Major, Boötes, and Virgo. The constellation Boötes, was explicitly identified in the Hesiodic Astronomia (Ἀστρονομία)[16] as Arcas, the “Bear-warden” (Arktophylax; Ἀρκτοφύλαξ):[17]

Catasterismi

Catasterismi (Greek Καταστερισμοί Katasterismoi, “placings among the stars”) is an Alexandrian prose retelling of the mythic origins of stars and constellations, as they were interpreted in Hellenistic culture.


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